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Sun Sep 07, 2008 19:01:36
wakil786 Elite Member [ PM: wakil786]	Main Masjid Mein Hu Baad Mein Aaonga.


Sun Sep 07, 2008 19:25:55
shameeer Junior Member [ PM: shameeer]	Mimtiyazudd plz show me the hadith where prophet Mohammad(s) prayed 20 rakath of taraabi...M challenging u...! U cant.


Sun Sep 07, 2008 19:32:24
mimtiyazudd Newbie [ PM: mimtiyazudd]	ok... plz wait.. i will post with refrences i will try to prove that 20 rakath pardhna afzal hai Post Edited By : mimtiyazudd


Sun Sep 07, 2008 19:41:21
shameeer Junior Member [ PM: shameeer]	And in Maulud kitab,if u understand and read or ask any1 who knows arabic well, in that kitab the people r asking madad(help) with prophet not with Allah,isse bada shirk kya hai logo,ta ki prophet ne khud kaha hai ki Allah ko chod kar aur kisi se(even with prophet) madad nahi maangna.If u dont believe go and check out frendz.Allah hum sabko sahi raasta dhikaye.Ameen...


Sun Sep 07, 2008 19:43:49
shameeer Junior Member [ PM: shameeer]	Mimtiyazudd i want referance from Bhukari Hadith...Not any


Sun Sep 07, 2008 19:55:55
shameeer Junior Member [ PM: shameeer]	Common guyz Learn Quran, Learn its Meaning and Follow it.


Sun Sep 07, 2008 19:57:54
mimtiyazudd Newbie [ PM: mimtiyazudd]	With regards to the number of rakaths of taraweeh, for the past twelve centuries, the entire ummah without any exception has been performing twenty rakaths of taraweeh. This has been the practice of Muslims from the time of the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace), the Sahabah (Allah be pleased with them), the Tabieen and the Ulama (Allah have mercy on him) until two centuries ago, when a newly-born sect called the Ahl al-Hadith introduced the theory that taraweeh is only eight rakath. Till today, taraweeh in both the Haramain (Makkah and Madinah) is twenty rakaths and thousands of Muslims observe 20 rakaths all over the world in the month of Ramadan. If we assume that eight rakaths of taraweeh is correct, then it means that the entire Ummah was deviated for all these centuries by performing twenty rakaths without any Sharia proof. Nonetheless, it can be conclusively proven that no masjid from the time of the Prophet (Allah bless him & give him peace) till two centuries ago had the practice of eight rakaths. Had eight rakaths been the mazhab of anyone, a scholar like Imam Tirmizi would have mentioned it in his book. some books refrences (1) It is reported by Yaz d Ibn Khusayfah from S ib Ibn Yaz d (Allah be pleased with him) that all the people used to perform twenty raka t of tar w h in the month of Ramad n during the era of Umar Ibn Khatt b (Allah be pleased with him). (Baihaqi in As Sunaul Kubra, vol.2 pg.496) This narration has been reported by Baihaqi with a correct chain of narrators in Ma'rifah whilst Im m Nawawi (676 A.H), Ibnul Iraqi and Im m Suyuti (911 A.H.) have attested to the correctness of this narration in Khul sah, Sharh Taqr b and Mas b h respectively. (2) Yaz d Ibn Rum n reports that all the people used to perform twenty three raka t in Ramad n during the time of Umar (Allah be pleased with him). (twenty raka t tar w h and three raka t witr). (Baihaqi in Sunaul Kubra vol.2 pg.496) When a report is made of a period, it is not necessary that Yaz d Ibn Rum n should belong to that period. The well-known affairs are generally known and do not require that the narrator be linked with that period. (for a detailed analysis of the hadith, see Raka'ate Tarawih of Sheikh Habibur Rahman Azmi pg.63-68) This had th has also been narrated by Im m M lik (179 A.H.) in his Muwatta. (pg. 9) Sh h Waliull h writes regarding the Muwatta: Im m Sh fi (204 A.H.) said, "The most authentic book after the Qur n is the Muwatta. The scholars of had th are unanimous that whatever it contains is correct in the opinion of Im m M lik and those that conform to his principles." Thus, although this hadith is mursal in As-Sunanul Kubra, it is narrated in the Muwatta of Im m M lik. Furthermore, a mursal hadith is accepted by Im m Abu Hanifa and Im m M lik. Im m Sh fi accepts a mursal hadith if it is given credence by other supporting narrations. (Sharh Nukhbatul Fikr, pg.64) The narrations which follow are sufficient in supporting this narration and lending weight to it. (3) Hadrat Umar Ibn Khatt b (Allah be pleased with him) commanded a person to perform twenty raka t tar w h for the people. (Abubakr Ibn Shaibah in his Musannaf, vol.1 pg.483) (4) Hadrat Ubayy Ibn Ka'b (Allah be pleased with him) used to lead the prayers by performing twenty raka t tar w h and three raka t witr. (Abu Dawood pg.202) (5) The eminent T bi , At said, "I found the people performing twenty raka t tar w h and three raka t witr." (Abubakr Ibn Shaibah in his Musannaf, vol.1 pg.483) (6) Abul Khusaib says that Suwaid Ibn Ghaflah used to make five sittings, i.e. he used to perform twenty raka t (and sit after every four). (Baihaqi vol.2 pg. 496) (7) N fi Ibn Umar reports that Ibn Abi Mulaykah used to perform twenty raka t for them in Ramad n. (Abubakr Ibn Shaibah in his Musannaf) (8) It is reported by Sa b Ibn Ubaid that Ali Ibn Rab ah used to make five tarw has (i.e. read twenty raka t and rest after every four) with the people and he used to perform three raka t of witr. (Abubakr Ibn Shaibah in his Musannaf) (9) Ibn Abbas reports that Rasulullah (Allah bless him & give him peace) used to perform twenty raka t in Ramad n individually and he also performed witr. (Abubakr Ibn Shaibah in his Musannaf and Baihaqi) This hadith has been accepted by the Ummah and is unanimously practised worldwide. However, it is essential to indicate the partiality of the Ahl al-Hadith (Literalists) when discussing the sanad (chain of narrators) of this hadith. They have blackened pages upon pages in denigrating one narrator of this hadith viz. Ibr him Ibn Uthm n. In their opinion, he is a very weak and unreliable narrator. But the Ahl al-Hadith (Literalists), in making Surah F tihah fard (or sunnat according to some) in Prayerul jan zah, have used a hadith with the same narrator, Ibr him Ibn Uthm n. (Salatur Rasool of Hakim Muhammad Siyalkoti, pg.434) Here, no one has written anything about this narrator nor is any challenge given regarding the authenticity of the hadith. H fiz Ibn Hajar has stated that Ibr him Ibn Uthm n was a h fiz i.e. he was well versed in the field of hadith. No one has criticised his memory. Some scholars like Im m Shu bah have criticised his authenticity while others like Yaz d Ibn H roon have regarded him as authentic. Thus he is a mukhtalaf f h narrator (one regarding whom there is a difference of opinion). Thus, the hadith falls in the category of hasan. (Hasan is that category of authentic hadith whose narrator's retention capacity is lower than that of a Sahih hadith - the highest category of hadith) This is on the assumption that Im m Shu bah did not retract from his criticism. However, if his retraction can be established, then this hadith falls in the category of sah h. (A Sahih hadith is one that is narrated by a person who has perfect retention capacity while the chain of narrators is uninterrupted and there is no deficiency or irregularity in the hadith) The eminent traditionist of Delhi, Sh h Abdul Az z states that he is not a weak narrator to the extent that his narration be rejected. (10) Shaytar Ibn Shakl who was a student of Al (Allah be pleased with him) reports that he (Al ) used to make Im mat of twenty raka t in Ramad n and he used to make three raka t of witr. (Baihaqi vol.2 pg.496) (11) Abdur Rahm n Sulami narrates that Hadrat Al (Allah be pleased with him) called the Qurr (reciters of the Qur! n) in Ramad n and commanded one of them to perform twenty raka t while Al (Allah be pleased with him) himself used to lead the witr prayer. (Baihaqi vol.2 pg.496) (12) It is reported in Qiy mul Layl by Muhammad Ibn Ka'b Al- Qurazi that all the people used to perform twenty raka t tar w h in the month of Ramad n. They used to lengthen the qir t and perform three raka t of witr. (Qiyamul Layl by Muhammad b. Nasr Marwazi pg.91) (13) A'mash says that Abdullah Ibn Masood (Allah be pleased with him) used to perform twenty raka t tar w h and three raka t of witr. (Qiyamul Layl by Muhammad b. Nasr Marwazi pg.91) (14) N fi, who was the freed slave of Ibn Umar (Allah be pleased with them ) and the student of Hadrat !isha, Abu Hurairah and Abu Rafi' (Allah be pleased with them), reports that he saw the people performing 36 raka t of tar w h and witr. (Tuhfatul Ahwazi vol.2 pg.73) (The reason for the difference in the number of raka'at will be discussed in chapter three) (15) Daw d Ibn Qays reports that during the era of Umar Ibn Abdil Aziz (101 A.H) and Ab n Ibn Uthm n (105 A.H.), he saw the people of Madinah performing thirty six raka t. Hadrat Umar Ibn Abdil Aziz had ordered the Qurr to perform thirty six raka t. (Qiyamul Layl by Muhammad b. Nasr Marwazi pg.91-92) (16) Abdul Aziz bin Rafai (Rahimahull h) mentions that Ubay bin Ka ab (Allah be pleased with him) used to perform twenty raka! t for the people and thereafter three raka t of witr. (Atharus Sunan pg.53) (17) Ubay bin Ka ab (Allah be pleased with him) reports that Umar (Allah be pleased with him) instructed him saying that if he lead the prayer it will be better. Thereafter he said, "Perform twenty raka t for the people." Atharus Sunan pg.255) (18) It is reported by Hasan that Umar Ibnul Khatt b (Allah be pleased with him) gathered the people with Ubayy Ibn Ka b (Allah be pleased with him) and he used to perform twenty raka t with them. (Abu Dawood, pg.1429 -Arabian print) for more refer http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.asp?HD=1&ID=1051&CATE=4 Post Edited By : mimtiyazudd
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Sun Sep 07, 2008 20:04:04
mimtiyazudd Newbie [ PM: mimtiyazudd]	Regarding the Salah, offered after the Isha Salah (i.e. Tarawih), in Ramadan, the right opinion is that one can offer as many number of rakat as one wishes because there is no fixed limit on it. Narrated Nafi Ibn 'Umar said, "While the prophet was on the pulpit, a man asked him how to offer the night prayers. He replied, ' Pray two Rakat at a time and then two and then two and so on, and if you are afraid of the dawn (the approach of the time of the Fajr prayer) pray one Rakat and that will be the witr for all the Rakat which you have offered." Ibn 'Umar Said, "The last Rakat of the night prayer should be odd, for the prophet ordered it to be so. ( Sahih Bukhari, Vol. 1, Hadith No. 461). Narrated Amr ibn Anbasah as-Sulami I asked: "Apostle of Allah, in which part of the night the supplication is more likely to be accepted? He Replied: In the last part: Pray as much as you like, for the prayer is attended by the angels and it is recorded till you offer the dawn prayer. (Abu Dawood, Vol. 1, Hadith No. 1272). We also find that some of the Taba'een used to pray 20 and some used to pray 36 Rakats in Tarawih. (Musannaf Ibn Abi Shaiba, Vol.2, Pages 165 & 166).
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Sun Sep 07, 2008 20:09:27
jack9581 Elite Member [ PM: jack9581]	sahi he ramzan me roze ke sath sath tarabi padhna bhi jaruri he. Allah hum sab ko sahi samaj ata farmaye, amin.


Sun Sep 07, 2008 20:33:30
shameeer Junior Member [ PM: shameeer]	<b>Mimtiyazudd iN Bhukari Hadith report u Presented, iN That it Never Said Tarawih is 20 rakaath. Here is a Hadith By Aisha(Raliallahuanhu) the Wife of Prophet Mohammad(s): Abu Salama ibn Abdur Rahman that he asked Aisha (Allah be pleased with her), "How was the prayer of Allah's Apostle (Peace be upon him) in Ramadan?" She replied, "He did not pray more than eleven raka'at in Ramadan or in any other month. He used to pray four raka'at - let alone their beauty and length - and then he would pray four - let alone their beauty and length - and then he would pray three rak'aat witr." She added, "I asked, 'O Allah's Apostle! Do you sleep before praying the witr? He replied, 'O Aisha, My eyes sleep but my heart does not sleep.(Bukhari, 3/230, English edn)[b][/b][i][/i] Post Edited By : shameeer


Sun Sep 07, 2008 20:45:44
shameeer Junior Member [ PM: shameeer]	Now tell me Guyz which Referance is More reliable. Aisha(R) The wife of Prophet Mohammad(s) said "He did not pray more Than Eleven Rakaath" Ab isse bada Referance Kya Hai Dosto.


Sun Sep 07, 2008 22:52:26
emaad1992 Evergreen Mem [ PM: emaad1992]	Arey shameer bhai aap jeete! Par aage se aap aise post mat karna jis se muslim-muslim mein jhagda ho! Theek hai? Sorry bhai agar koi galat words use kiya toh! Sorry! Kal se 8 rakat hi padhunga! Pehle isha ki toh padhne do!


Mon Sep 08, 2008 02:26:19
mr.h Average Mem. [ PM: mr.h]	Insaalah hame allah tala roza aur namaj padne ke tofik ata farmay alah aamin


Mon Sep 08, 2008 02:34:51
moonstararif BRAIN TEASER [ PM: moonstararif]	amin


Mon Sep 08, 2008 02:40:40
moonstararif BRAIN TEASER [ PM: moonstararif]	plz learn to love we are fighting for taraweeh rakaats and there are so many orders of Allah and Sunnah of Hazrat Muhammad peace be upon him are broken daily from us we tell lie break promise eat wealth of each other use interest which is a clear fight with Allah and His messenger all these are part of our daily life thats y we are suffering all over the world plz brothers think wats really Islam demands from us


Mon Sep 08, 2008 04:18:21
moonstararif BRAIN TEASER [ PM: moonstararif]	The Prophet (Sal Allaho Alaiyhe Sallam) said, 'Whoever memorized Forty Ahadeth about the Deen to relate to my Ummah, Allah (on the Day of Judgement) will raise him as a Faiqh and I will intercede for him on the Day of Jundgement and will be a witness on his behalf.' (Mishkat) 1) Before speaking the salaam should be said. (Tirmizi) 2) Spread the salaam amongst yourselves. (Muslims, Tirmizi, Ibn-e-Majah, Ahmad bin Hanmbal) 3) Whoever sends one durood upon me, Allah sends ten blessings (durood) upon him. (Tirmizi, Abu Dawood, Mishkat) 4) My intercession is for the big sinners in my Ummah. (Tirmizi, Abu Dawood, Mishkat) 5) Fast after sighting the moon (for the month of Ramadan) and do iftar (Eid) after the moon-sighting. (Bukhari and Muslim)


Mon Sep 08, 2008 04:19:02
moonstararif BRAIN TEASER [ PM: moonstararif]	6) Cleanliness is a part of the Faith. (Tirmizi) 7) Duaa is the kernel of ibadat. (Tirmizi) 8) Actions depend on their intention. (Bukhari and Muslim) 9) A muslim is he from whose tongue and hands a Muslim is safe. (Bukhari and Muslim) 10) The best of you is the one who learned and taught the Quran. (Bukhari, Muslim, Ibn-e-Majah, and Darmi)


Mon Sep 08, 2008 04:19:39
moonstararif BRAIN TEASER [ PM: moonstararif]	11) Modesty is a part of faith. (Muslim) 12) When Allah intends good for someone he makes them a Faqih. (Bukhari, Muslim, and Mishkat) 13) Be quiet, when the Imam does the qirat (recitation of the Holy Quran). (Musnad-e-Imam-e-Azam) 14) (In Salah) whoever has an Imam, the qirat of the Imam is the qirat of the Muqtadee (it is sufficient for the Muqtadee). (Musnad-e-Imam-e-Azam, Ibn-e-Majah) 15) Visit the graves because they remind one of the Akhirah. (Muslim, Tirmizi, Ibn-e-Majah, Nisaee)


Mon Sep 08, 2008 04:20:17
moonstararif BRAIN TEASER [ PM: moonstararif]	16) A Muslim is a brother of a Muslim. (Bukhari, Muslim, Tirmizi, and Ibn-e-Majah) 17) To learn the Knowledge of the Deen is fard upon every Muslim man and woman. (Ibn-e-Majah) 18) Salah is a pillar of the Deen. (Tabrani) 19) Whoever is deprived of tenderness (unto others) is depreived of good. (Muslim) 20) Relate on MY behalf even if it is an Ayah. (Bukhari)
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Mon Sep 08, 2008 04:20:50
moonstararif BRAIN TEASER [ PM: moonstararif]	21) Whoever remains quiet attains salvation. (Tirmizi) 22) The punishment of the Grave is Haq (the Truth). (Ahmad bin Hanmbal) 23) The influence of the gaze is Haq [the Truth]. (Bukhari, Muslim, Tirmizi, Abu Dawood, and Ahamd bin Hanbal) 24) Religion is the name of well-wishing. (Bukhari) 25) Announce your Nikkah (marriage). (Tirmizi, Ibn-e-Majah, Ahmad Bin Hanmbal)
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